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Devil's Kettle Falls: the east branch (right) drops 50 feet over the rocky cliff; the west branch (left) disappears into a cauldron.
Courtesy Mark RyanWith autumn in full force and snow already in the weekend forecast there’s not much time to get out and get some last looks at some of the many interesting geological wonders we have here in Minnesota. So I thought I’d end the tourist season (at least the geo-tourist season) with one last thing that will keep you pondering all through the dreary days of winter. Hopefully, next spring, when you come out of hibernation you’ll have a solution in hand to this odd geological mystery.
Devil’s Kettle is a puzzling geological phenomenon located on the North Shore of Lake Superior. As the Brule River makes it way toward the lake, it gets split in two by a rocky knob located just above the falls. While the east half tumbles down 50 feet in normal waterfall fashion and continues toward the lake, the west half disappears in a very large pothole and is never seen again. Where does the water go? No one seems to know.
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Devil's Kettle: where does all that water go?
Courtesy Mark RyanIt’s a heck of a lot of water (not to mention trees, rocks, and boulders) to just vanish into the ground. There’s been speculation that the underground river ends up somewhere along the shore of Lake Superior (about 1.5 miles away), but it has never been determined where exactly.
One theory has the river following a large fault located somewhere in the lower bedrock. But this is unlikely since it would have to be extremely large to allow for so much water to flow through it. It would also have to be precisely oriented toward the lake. And there’s never been any evidence of such a fault found in the area.
Another theory is that a lava tube formed a billion years ago when the rocks first solidified. Lava tubes can be found in Hawaii where fresh basalt is created by the islands’ volcanoes. The problem with this theory, according to geologist John C. Green, is that the rock at Devil’s Kettle waterfalls isn't basalt - it's rhyolite, and lava tubes never form in rhyolite.
But maybe it's a hidden lava tube located in a layer of basalt directly beneath the rhyolite. After all, geologists have determined that the rocks in that particular region alternate between layers of rhyolites and layers of basalts. Maybe the swirling rock-filled glacial water that formed the pothole at the end of an ice age cut down beyond the rhyolite and into an ancient lava tube. That could have happened right? Well, not likely. For one thing the basalts found in the area aren't the kind in which lava tubes would form. North Shore basalts were flood basalts that spread out on the surface like pancake batter poured onto a griddle. But even if it were the correct kind, the nearest basalt layer to Devil’s Kettle is located much too far underground to be any kind of factor in the mystery.
So where does it all that water go? Over the years, people have tried to figure it out by throwing logs, colored dyes, and even ping-pong balls into Devil’s Kettle in hopes of seeing signs of them show up along the lakeshore. But none ever has, and where it all ends up remains a mystery. (One story claims someone pushed a car into the cauldron, but to get a car to the site and be able to dump it into the kettle from above looked nearly impossible to me. When we were there, my wife remarked it’d be a great place to get rid of a body. That didn’t set well with me – and not because of the difficulty involved in doing it. I made sure she walked ahead of me on the way back.)
Anyway, if you want to go see this remarkable geological conundrum for yourself, Devil’s Kettle is located in Judge C. R. Magney State Park about fifteen miles beyond Grand Marais on Highway 61. To get to the falls you have to walk in about 1-1.5 mile from the park entrance, including climbing down (and up, on the way back) about 200 wooden steps. But the trek is well worth the effort. The park closes for the season at the end of October so if you have a chance this month you should check it out. Who knows - maybe once you see Devil’s Kettle for yourself, you’ll be the one to figure out where all that water goes.
Or maybe some of you already have a theory. If you do, let us know.
cant they just send some sort of tracking device down there ,then they could just map the entire route out
They're either not interested in resolving this mystery or have already resolved it but don't want to tell the public because it's an attraction to tourists and perhaps if they did know or they did answer the mystery people would loose interest in this place.
Mystery is the allure of this place, take that away and it loses it's charm. And some people would benefit more from keeping it a mystery or a secret than not and doesn't harm anyone. Although, doing this is not very ethical to say the least.
Recently saw Jennifers Body & through googling various things as the Internet tends to do ended up here. I'd like to add a few of MHO's, most natural flowing water that disappears into the ground and seemingly a mystery as to it's destination is lost in caverns. It may never resurface or take a long time to reappear if it ever does. The problem with the methods of tracing the path mentioned in the original story is dyes disipate quickly with such volumes of water involved you virtually need truckloads of the stuff to do it right. Logs get caught very easily, ping pong balls will end up in a air pocket since they float easily both of which will not reappear obviously. These methods require that there is an outlet that's fairly close. Caverns can go for miles & it would be a longshot for any object to reappear once it had made it's winding obstacle ridden journey through them. Some groundwater may never reappear even given the apparent volume of water that would flow through the falls the amount of room underground caverns can hold is almost endless. Colored dyes while seemingly a good idea have solid pigments however small that eventually be caught along it's journey a flourescent dye may work if the same water reappeared at all & in relatively the same place which it may be dispersed in several outlets & not just one as most would assume.
I'm not the most technologically savvy person in the world, but how hard would it be to drop a water-proof GPS unit in the hole and simply track it?
I read somewhere that some students planned to do such a thing but I don't know if they ever went through with it. But I also read that a GPS wouldn't work underground, that it needs a line-of-sight. Whether or not that's true, I don't know.
I said the sammme exact thing. With all this technology I'm sure they tried that already but don't wanna spoil the attraction they get with the mystery.
GPS will not work underground cos it uses satellites. It would be better to place a probe into the hole. It could be a very long and strong wire with a few sensors on its end so that you can monitor some things (magentic filed, video/infra camera, temperature, pressure, vibration, etc.) with the connected computer.
if you want to know how far it goes all you have to di si one simple thing...get a few miles of steel 500lb fishing line and forge an 8 ounce sinker onto one of the ends and make sure the rest of the line is on some kind of rotatating spool such as an empty telephone company wooden canle spool.....then all you have too do is sit and wait....if you run out of cable you know it goes farther when it stops cut the cable and measure what you have left subtract it from what you started sith and wah lah..........also you could fashion some kind of water proof beacon on the end that runs on a lithium battery witha delay that will keep going off so you could hear it...bottomline is if the water can flow in and not flow over then somewhere it flows out no matter how big that opening is remains to be discovered...chances are from the looks of this is flows down into a cave and somehwere in the cae the water slowly drains out and chances are this cavern is hundreads of feet deep so it never fills to over flow
It is quite interesting to think about it, but maybe we're overlooking something, maybe we just looking to deep. Devil's Kettle might just be another mystery that the human mind can not comprehend, maybe it is more than just science nature. Sometimes we need to accept the things the way they are and appreciate that there is more to life than see the eye or understands the mind. It is there to remind us that despite our technological advances and our intelligence but we are still human and limited in all we do. We sometimes just have to look and admire, sometimes hope for a divine intervention or a small miracle.
So if astronauts can go into space couldn't they use the same technology that they use to go into space with,like space suits and long very long lifelines attached to them to go in an explore it,alternatively couldn't they build a small vessel like a shuttle of sorts where it would be equipped with enough oxygen and a strong line connected to it so that it can be pulled back from the pothole. And someone in the vessel with the communication tools that astronauts use so that communication would not be lost.
I looked this up after seeing it on the movie Jennifers Body, but anyway to truly find out where the hole goes has anyone thought to sandbag to fall and/or when the water is flowing at it's least and send a diver down and see where it goes.
Hey,
I live about 15 minutes from the kettle. If anybody had any ideas you'd like me to try. Let me know. I am interested in knowing where it goes as well.
Jump in with a waterproof camera and some long rope. take some pics and send them to me.
hi epilogue have you tried what an anynomous said about wire and or rope?
and see how deep it go?
im not from usa and i check this out also... after watching
jeniffer's body XD
thanks !!
I too ended up here after watching the movie "Jennifer's body".
I'd like to ask - how big is the hole that's sucking all the water??
May be someone should report it to the Discovery Channel or NGC...
I found this phenonmena very interesting also. I wonder how come they didnt divert the water flow for a while and got some cave experts or divers to have a look around while there is no water flowing in. I personaly think this water is going very deep and into the water table. Here in Australia they say some of the old aquafers are holding water over 1000 years old that moves very slowly over large areas underground. If this is happening there you wont be seeing any dies coming out anyplace as its still traveling slowly underground and proberly disapating..... Anyway thats my thoughts for the day :)
Yes Kermit, but we're talking about a hole that lies 1.5 miles from the largest body of fresh water in the world. [Heck] along the north shore here, the depth can drop off to 800 feet with just a couple of miles of the shore, so saying that it goes deep...yeah, it may...but the lake it sits next to is deep too...over 1300 feet at it's deepest! This whole thing is just so flipping interesting, I really wish they'd do a National Geographic show on it or something.
just a thought. why not try a remote robot camera like in themovie the abyss? a device like this would be able to take a lot of water pressure and banging around. the only obvious difficulty is cable lenght. as far as a coverup of the answer to the mystery, a private effort could solve it without "yhem" tampering with the results.
maybe, just maybe, the heat underground vaporizes the water if it heads up to earths mantle. :)
again i watched jenifers body to be brought here... someone must have absailed into the kettle..? i would...if i was not so scared of monstes.
So we build dams all the time that hold back water why not build a temporary one up stream a bit that diverts all the water to the left fall in the season that has the lowest water flow for the river and then send someone down the hole i haven't seen the waterfall in person but from pics it looks like the right side fall could handle the water flow that would happen if they diverted the flow temporarily and I'm sure there are many cave divers/spelunkers that would jump on the chance once it was blocked off to fill the mystery and try and find were it goes.
I like this idea. I wonder if we can get some government support for it.
Yes that is exactly what the government should be spending money on during a time of war and a recession. I can deffinitly see the tax payers of this country being happy with that idea.........think before you talk next time
wow dont be so rude anonymous..its a good thought and technically the tax payers arent happy anyways..lol so why not try and solve a big mystery..honestly it would make alot of people happy, because it could very well answer scientific questions as well as maybe historical ones. The government is wasting money on alot more ridiculous things anyways
I've been watching this movie Jenifer's body and i wanted to know if that is true can you drop a ball in the hole will it suface?and im writing a story on there is there a town near it?
Layla - as the story relates, over the years people have tossed various things into the pothole never to see them again. It's just not known where (or even if) that part of the river comes out in Lake Superior. Devil's Kettle is located along the North Shore of Lake Superior in Judge C. R. Magney state park between the small communities of Covill and Hovland. The closest large town is Grand Marais, MN located 14 miles southeast of the park on Highway 61.
Yes, once again, my girlfriend and I fell victims to the movie. I immediately paused the flick and started searching online for these "falls". There are a lot of good ideas out there. I'm betting that SOMEONE HAS to know where it ends. I gave it some thought...why not use a tracking device, like the ones they put on whales, sharks, deep dea angler's and stuff? These beast obviously live in the deepest waters of the world and survive through some pretty tough test with Mother Nature, etc.. One could "install" one in something big, like the size of a beach ball or something, stronger though...something...and, well, just wait and track the darn thing? Who knows, perhaps it connects to the river below the falls and they just made this mystery up to attract tourist or something.
I don't understand what the problem is, whether people are illiterate or just don't want to be bothered to read the above comments. YOU CANNOT USE A TRACKING DEVICE LIKE GPS OR WHAT THEY "USE ON WHALES" BECAUSE WATER ABSORBS/DAMPENS PRETTY MUCH EVERY FREQUENCY SO MUCH THAT WE CANNOT "TRACK" THEM UNTIL THEY SURFACE!
Now, using a camera with a cable, seems the only viable option to me. Besides, its just a bunch of water falling into a hole, if you watch Planet Earth or something, you will understand the vastness of underground caverns, and this wouldn't be such a "mystery". But that wouldn't be very good for tourism (you can stay out of my north woods for all i care, the less people the better off nature is)
Has anyone went scuba diving there or is it too risky?
Since it's uncertain where the pothole leads, I'd think scuba diving would be too risky.
This could be the water (and water vapor) headed to Yellowstone National Park supplying Old Faithful... Could make sense with the rising of Yellowstone Lake and the upheaval of land in that area; could be a massive amount of air pressure pushing the land up and getting ready for a mammoth explosion. Perhaps The Discovery Channel or NG should explore this to see if there is a correlation before it's too late. Just a thought...
I have to laugh when I see so many people who have watched Jenifer's body and then looked for the Devil's kettle on the net.
But I to did exactly that, and to be honest I was surprised it was fact I was sure it was going to be just part of the movie and fiction.
Of course I would also love to know were the water (and all the other stuff) goes but I would be VERY suprised if scientists did not really know. I bet they have it mapped out etc already but stories like this make money for the area just like Nessie and loch Ness up the road from me.
Speaking of Loch Ness one of the theories for Nessie is there is some kind of portal (time, dimensions etc) in Loch Ness and that is why Nessie appears and disappears etc. Maybe the devils Kettle in one two !!
So anyway can anyone explain to me what all these ping pong balls, logs and a car are doing in Loch Ness *S*
I was unaware of the reference to Devil's Kettle in the "Jennifer's Body" when I first made this post. But you're right, it seems to have drawn lots of readers to this site. I'll have to rent the movie sometime.
Regarding geologists actually knowing where the water goes and not saying: I tend to believe those I've talked to about the subject. As with most conspiracy theories, there'd have to be a whole bunch of people involved to keep such a secret quiet forever, and I don't think our species is capable of keeping its collective yap shut. Over time, allegiances change, personal motives take different directions, people become disgruntled for whatever reason, or just want to come clean. Also, scientists tend to be extremely competitive. If someone did discover where the kettle's water ends up, you can rest assured they'd be making it public in some way or another as fast as possible.
Maybe this is where Marshall, Will, & Holly, found the Land of the Lost??? There may be dinosaurs and sleestak down there.
So has anyone ever asked anyone from the government? Are we the only ones interested in the devils kettle? I don't think so. Has there ever been a time in history that devils kettle has been closed, where no one could go near it? That might shed some light on weather there was a government envolvement.
I read a book a couple of days ago, a murder mystery, that included the devil's kettle. The book is Unraveled Sleeve by Monica Ferris. I won't say anything else about the book, in case anyone wants to read it.
Any fish in the river? If so do they have the same trace pollutants in them as the ones in lake superior? A boyant GPS transmitter will show the location when it pops up from the other end.(most likely Lake Superior)
I also watched jennifers body which by the way was a good movie and it had led me to do alittle research as well. Because i didnt think it excisted but one that likes to look up this type of stuff includeing the cresent hotel i think for the devils kettle i think they do need to lower something down in there just to see where it goes and there is such a thing that they can as well as send a cam corder water proof of course to see what all is in there maybe you would be suprised and if any bodies have came up missing well that would be one place to look right if i do say so myself. I am one of those types of people that likes to do research and see what i can find if i was a researcher then i would find out for myself just to see and go from there.Just like paranormal activity you seen what happen well i was at a lake where i live and my husband and i were at the lake fishing one night around midnight and this ghost of some sort was calling my name i looked up and there he stood looking at me wanting me to come into the woods i wouldnt do it and my husband of course made him really mad by flashing the camra he wanted me to do everything he demanded but i didnt listen and he attacked me i had all kinds of bruises and cuts that it was real and of course the police couldnt do anything and his name was joseph he had rapped a couple of girls out there and then killed them and then killed himself my 2 sister in laws were there with us that night and had seen it all as well as my husband so talk about spine chilling thats just like what people need to do is investigate that type of stuff like this beautiful waterfall see where it goes just to be curious..
GPS (Global Positioning System) receivers use a very week signal received from geosynchronous satellites 200 miles in orbit. The signal would not penetrate the rock for even a few feet.
Like many others, Jennifer's Body is what brought me here. Really interesting to know that it is actually really. Kind of scary, reminds me of that one movie THE DESCENT. But anyways what i think they should do is block the water from entering like creating a dam and then send something down there. Either a person (if they fit) or a little camera. If we can do space explorations im sure the government can do underground explorations. Who knows might lead to some secret underground civilization lol but that would be awesome to find out. I also agree that they probably know where it leads to but not want anyone to know.
WE ACTUALLY DO NOT WANT TO KNOW HOW THE WATER FLOWS BUT WANT TO KNOW FROM WHERE THE WATER ARISES. NOW GPS LOCATORS ARE WEAK I KNOW BUT IT IS WHEN IT IS INSIDE THE DEVIL'S KETTLE. FROM SOME POINT WHERE IT ARISES IT WILL BE ABLE TO CATCH THE SIGNAL AND RESPOND. NOW WE CAN TRACE THE PATH FROM WHERE THE GPS LOCATOR LOST THE SIGNAL TO POINT WHERE THE LOCATOR RECOVERED THE SIGNAL AGAIN. IN THIS WAY WE CAN TRACE FROM WHERE THE WATER RISES AGAIN.
Why try to find out where it goes or what is down there, why can't we just leave it is one of those wonders that never gets figured out, I rather think.....no..HOPE there are things out there that science cannot explain, good to see one mystery that has yet to be debunked.
they have GPS's or whatever that can go to mars and be transmitted back to earth. though it still does recover after reflecting off all the particles in space. You would think the government has a device that can last through layers of rock... but i live in minnesota and has never seen this, once i saw jennifers body i want to see it really bad!
To the person talking about transmitting through the vacuum of space...a vacuum is the easiest thing to transmit waves through, rock/water being one of the hardest.....comparing apples to bombs.
IS IT POSSIABLE THE FORCE OF THE WATER HAS CREATED A MASSIVE UNDERGROUND CAVE SYSTEM THAT TRAVELS MILES DOWN. AND IT COULD POSSIABLY ENTER ON THE FLOOOR OF MILACS LAKE OFF THE SHORE A FAR WAY OUT. AND IF ITEMS DO EXIT AT THAT DEPH IT WOULD BE CRUSHED FROM THE PRESSURE OF THE WATER. COULDENT WE DAM UP THE WATER AND REDIRECT IT. PROB A RROAB AND FLARE. SEND A DIVER DOWN WITH TANK AND PLENTY OF LINE OR A CAMREA AND SEE HOW DEEP IT TRAVELES AND OR SEE IF IT JUST ENDS IN THE ROCK. OR OPTION NUMBER TO IS TO SET UP A BEACON PROBE WITH A WATER PROOF CASE. AND ATTACH SOME KIND OF AIR SYSTEM ON A TIMER SO WHEN IT EXITS AN AIRBAG INFLATES AND LIFTS THE BEACON TO THE SURFACE
Also, Aaron Hill, Mille Lacs is in the middle of the state, not on the north shore....it would have to be hundreds of miles long to reach Mille Lacs, you must have meant Lake Superior.
Woah. This just blows my mind! I've never heard of Devil's Kettle (or Jennifer's Body, for that matter) and I've lived in Minnesota most of my life. Now I know where I'm headed on my next vacation up north...
Minnehaha Falls: With all the Spring flooding, this is a great time of year to see (and hear!) these raging waters. (Seriously, go check it out!)
Courtesy Jesper Rautell Balle
Hey! Some of you might not know, but our very own Minneapolis boasts a 53-foot natural waterfall called Minnehaha Falls that is definitely worth checking out.
I definitely think NatGeo or Discovery or some other similar TV show needs to get behind figuring out this really cool geologic mystery. (After all, I'm not diving into that abyss anytime soon myself.)
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