May
17
2009

Swine flu vs bird flu

Cold noses are good for preventing bird flu

Don't let your children do this
Don't let your children do thisCourtesy KnOizKi

A recent study may explain why the bird flu has not become a pandemic. The human nose is too cold. Avian flu viruses prefer 104 degree F. The temperature in our noses is usually less than 90 degrees F. Critics of the study point out that it was only done in petri dishes so may not be an accurate reflection of what happens in humans.

Since the bird flu virus re-emerged in 2003, there have been only 423 reported cases. If the viruses manage to get into the lower lung, however, they replicate so quickly that 6 out of 10 victims (258) died.

The normal seasonal flu kills only 1 out of 1000 victims (250,000 to 500,000 people per year world wide).

Figuring the odds of a deadly mutation

Please comment what you think about this logic.

"When more people get the flu, the chances of a deadly mutation increases. Say the chance of a deadly mutation is one in a million. If 10,000 people get sick, the odds are 10,000/1,000,000 or 1/100. If a million people get sick the chance of a deadly mutation is almost a sure thing."

The new H1N1 virus appears to be more contagious

The percentage of contacts who catch the regular variety of flu from an infected person is between 5 and 15 percent, but current estimates for H1N1 being spread range from 22 to 33 per cent (according to WHO). Reuters via Yahoo News

As of May 15, 2009, 34 countries have officially reported 7520 cases of influenza A(H1N1) infection. World Health Organization

An intriguing mutation has been detected

The virus isolated from the second swine flu patient in the Netherlands has an intriguing mutation in a gene called PB2 that could mean that the virus has become better at spreading from person to person, a team of Dutch researchers reported on Friday on ProMED, a monitoring system for disease outbreaks. But they're the first to acknowledge that it could also be a red herring. Science Insider

You can make a difference

If you can behave in ways that prevent you from catching or spreading this new type of H1N1 flu, you will minimize the odds its changing into a more deadly form.

Your Comments, Thoughts, Questions, Ideas

Anonymous's picture
Anonymous says:

Raw, you can see the evolution here

:( => http://www.pandemik.info

posted on Mon, 05/18/2009 - 11:48am
Candace's picture
Candace says:

I didnt know that about the swine flu...r the swine flu and the bird flu related in any way?

posted on Wed, 05/20/2009 - 10:22pm
Anonymous's picture
Anonymous says:

yes they are related...
they have the same disease processs...

posted on Tue, 01/05/2010 - 10:32am
ARTiFactor's picture
ARTiFactor says:

Your question, "Are the swine flu and the bird flu related in any way" is discussed here.

… different strains of Influenza A infect different species. Normally, those strains will not cross species. In other words, pigs can’t be infected by the bird flu and the swine flu can’t infect birds. But sometimes, an animal will be infected with two different types of influenza A at the same time and the two viruses swap genetic information. When this happens, there is a possiblility to jump species. This is likely what is happening in Mexico … and now the US. Humans have never been exposed to this type of “new” influenza and our immune systems don’t react very well. This happens every few decades and lots of people die. Sad but true.

They are genetic variations of an influenza virus. The shape of their outside surface is what your body's immune system reacts to. The new H1N1 virus has a unique shape that humans have not dealt with before.

posted on Thu, 05/21/2009 - 8:16am
Nige's picture
Nige says:

Hi there!

just to ask a couple of things that u may know about on this:

is the swine flu more, less or v similar in level of fatalitys caused? i realise as will reach more people it would but, in terms of if seasonal flu affected 10 000 people and swine flu did also - which of the two may have higher fatality rate?

secondly, as it is spreading far quicker than prev pandemics, would it also be logical to say that it shuld then dissappear at a quicker rate than prev ones, so for example, the 1968 one if was around in the air for like couple of yrs, would this one be arnd say a year? as is spreading quicker n thus peaking quicker?

and thirdly, how likely is it to get it frm other means other than the obvious ones of being coughed or sneezed on or nearby on u? for example, touching handles etc or even via windy weather? and does a gas mask or paper mask could they help a bit? i would have thoght they could but i duno.

thanks

Nigel.

posted on Fri, 07/17/2009 - 10:19am
Anonymous's picture
Anonymous says:

i myself truly agree with this article

posted on Sat, 05/23/2009 - 1:22pm
maleman001's picture
maleman001 says:

That is not nasty and My son Will not get near birds or pigs.I did not about the bird flu and the H1N1 Flu was kinda the same.

posted on Sat, 05/23/2009 - 3:13pm
Anonymous's picture
Anonymous says:

I think it would be terrible to get the bird flu.

posted on Fri, 05/29/2009 - 12:09pm
Anonymous's picture
Anonymous says:

That could totally cause swine flu (H1N1)

posted on Thu, 06/04/2009 - 11:59am
Anonymous's picture
Anonymous says:

I know thats why a lot of mexicans are dead. So many people are dieing these day.

posted on Thu, 06/04/2009 - 1:54pm
Anonymous's picture
Anonymous says:

china got right idea.str idct control necessary

posted on Tue, 07/21/2009 - 10:04am
Anonymous's picture
Anonymous says:

whats the difference? its either a pig or a bird

posted on Tue, 07/21/2009 - 2:57pm
Tandorla's picture
Tandorla says:

There are a couple of differences between swine and bird flu. Swine flu spreads very quickly, but doesn't have a very high fatality rate. Bird flu spreads very slowly, but has a higher fatality rate. So what would happen if these two met?

They cannot meet in a pig, as this animal cannot have bird flu. They cannot meet in a bird as this animal cannot get swine flu. But people can get both. If these two met in a person is it not possible to end up with a strain of flu with the rapid spread of swine flu, and the high fatality rate of bird flu? Something to think about.

posted on Thu, 09/30/2010 - 4:16am
ARTiFactor's picture
ARTiFactor says:

Bird flu has been found in pigs. Read about it here - Bird flu jumps to pigs

between 2005 to 2007 when the avian flu peaked, 7.4 per cent of 700 pigs they tested also carried H5N1. There have been sporadic reports of H5N1 in pigs, but this is the first time the extent of the problem has been measured.

posted on Thu, 09/30/2010 - 11:48am

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