Genes develope slight mutations, not only from person to person, but from cell to cell within a human body. Genes, whether animal, plant, or human are not invented by people, they are, if you will, a constantly changing force of nature. (Who you believe is "in control" of that nature is up to you.) Nevertheless, I believe that genes should not be patented, mabey they could be copywritten, but whatever hold a company or entity has on a gene, that should NEVER be abused.
you can only patent a gene if it's not in its natural form, which is kind of like a new invention. i mean the light bulb is electricity (lighting) not in its natural form, right? plus the patents will all wear out after 20 years.
I did a little searching around, and it looks like companies are able to patent natural genes. They don't have to alter them, or build them from scratch; they just have to isolate and purify them (in a "novel" way), and show how the genes could have a "substantial use." The "invention" being patented is essentially the genetic information itself. Usually the publication of a patent allows other inventors to build on an invention, seeing what works and what doesn't, working with other materials, etc. But with gene patents, the publication of the information means that no one else can create products with patented genes for the 20 years that the patent is in effect without paying royalties to the patent holder. That makes some genetic research prohibitively expensive, or even impossible.
The article linked to above begins:
"If you've got at least one kidney, a company called Biogen owns the patent for at least one of your genes. It's called the KIM gene, and the kidney uses it in the process of self-repair.
If you can taste things with your tongue, the University of California own the rights to three more of your genes, called TCP-1, 2 and 3; it's not clear in the patent application what the owners plan to do with their rights to these genes.
And if you have bones that have grown normally since birth, one of the genes that played a role in that normal growth belongs to a company called Sumimo Metal Industries.
As of January 2007, some 20% of the genes that make up human DNA were patented.
this is just not right having a patent on human genes. what if the company who has the patent has a money-lover researchers.. work for money and not caring for those who are in danger.. other than that, it's just outrageous to let only one company to be able to make use of that genes. it is, in fact, limiting the discovery of the cure to those chronic diseases. what would happen to the world if a disease strikes the whole world? DO we have to depend on those few researchers in the company (maybe 10 or less of them) to find the cure? It'LL TAKE THEM THOUSANDS OF YEARS!!! why not work together as a united world? with more people working on the same thing, a lot faster it is to be able to find the cure...
The reason this is even in question is because they didnt just discover a gene, they isolated it. That had never been done before. I think that patents to help encourage scientist to do more reasearch, but the junk they are doing with the patents is wacked up...do you hear me? WACKED UP. yup. they shouldnt make ppl pay as much money to try to research the gene...that is wrong, and holds back medical research. They were on the right track..they just dont know how to stay there...TT_TT evilness!! getting good medical research and then stopping it...
"The reason this is even in question is because they didnt just discover a gene, they isolated it. That had never been done before. I think that patents to help encourage scientist to do more reasearch, but the junk they are doing with the patents is wacked up...do you hear me? WACKED UP. yup. they shouldnt make ppl pay as much money to try to research the gene...that is wrong, and holds back medical research. They were on the right track..they just dont know how to stay there...TT_TT evilness!! getting good medical research and then stopping it..." --Devender
If one agrees with the patenting of genes, then one agrees with the powers the act of patenting a gene gives a person, including have the "right" to own a gene that is in everyone's body and treat it as a product that is owned as he/she gets greedy, etc...
What is shocking is that you can patent something you did not even create. "Isolate" and "found a novel use for" are ridiculous excuses for greed and selfishness. Anyone can "isolate" something or find a "novel" use for something. So, if I find a novel use for some type of food, do I patent it and take that food away from everyone for my self? Finders keepers is a child's game the U.S. government is condoning!
I don't agree with the patenting of any part of nature. I don't care what anyone believes, parts of nature are "the commons"; and, no selfish little finite rat should be allowed take it away for his/herself.
So, if I extract one of my own genes from my own body, that is also found in every other human's body, I can be sued by a researcher, one person, who patented "it." That single researcher can own all of these genes in everyone's bodies. Case in point: the gene that causes breast cancer. Researchers were sued, fined, restricted, etc... from using the gene in search of a cure for BC.
It'll just take us that much longer to find (if, now, we ever find) cures as more unique individuals with great potential are cut off. How many will die waiting (possibly forever)?
Personally, I find this privatization of literally everything utterly disgusting and repulsive. Bottled water companies have even told dirt poor peoples of other countries that they couldn't collect rain water because "they" had the rights to it. What is this world coming to? What is next? I know, but I won't say, as I don't want to give them the idea too soon; but expect it. Whatever it is, they want it.
I strongly support stem cell research, however I do not think companies should patent genes. I feel that stem cell research should be pushed more than patenting genes in curing chronic diseases.
No, the problems we have now are due to the patenting. Drugs are too expensive to buy, treatments are outrageous, and people who suffer from diseases suffer because the companies holding the patents are making it harder for other companies or scientists to find cures. I would love for one of the people holding a patent to something, get a disease that another company has the patent to and suffer the way we do, not able to do a thing about it.
patenting human genes is the way business works. business is what has helped create our progressive country. at this time patenting seems to be the answer for the study and progression of medicine. what are the alternatives?
Evil is more of a opinion than a fact to me, so it's hard to say what they should or shouldn't do. And so it's hard to judge what should happen that way.
i think that the whole woeld is coming to an end because our eco system is failing because of the "man" we should all band together and work twards a better world and a better eco system
Patents are for inventions, not merely discoveries. Patenting genes would be like patenting a new species discovered in some faraway jungle. If you allow genes to be patented (as I guess is already being done), it leads to less innovation and less assistance that could be gained from unrestricted access to such genes.
It's absolutely absurd that this practice has been going on. Genes simply aren't man-made inventions.
THE PATENT IS A LEGAL PROCESS TO PREVENT OTHERS FROM FREE ACCESS, OR A METHOD TO GAIN PROFITS FOR GENETIC TESTING. THIS IS THE DARK SIDE OF THE RESEARCH PROCESS.
Well, that is actually the opposite of what is happening. Companies are patenting your genes and preventing you from benefiting from the research without a license fee. In an article for the New York Times, Michael Crichton brings up this great example:
For example, Canavan disease is an inherited disorder that affects children starting at 3 months; they cannot crawl or walk, they suffer seizures and eventually become paralyzed and die by adolescence. Formerly there was no test to tell parents if they were at risk. Families enduring the heartbreak of caring for these children engaged a researcher to identify the gene and produce a test. Canavan families around the world donated tissue and money to help this cause.
When the gene was identified in 1993, the families got the commitment of a New York hospital to offer a free test to anyone who wanted it. But the researcher’s employer, Miami Children’s Hospital Research Institute, patented the gene and refused to allow any health care provider to offer the test without paying a royalty. The parents did not believe genes should be patented and so did not put their names on the patent. Consequently, they had no control over the outcome.
Letting private companies patent human genes makes it harder to find cures because researchers are afraid to research something they worry may be in the private domain.
Besides, the codes for human genes themselves are fairly simple, and are typically gleaned from publically funded research made public over the internet. Taxpayer money funds the hard work, and private companies claim credit (and profit.)
because in the end it is very limiting to scientific discovery. only companies that have the patents for specific genetic code would be able to study and possibly create a cure for some of the most horrendous genetic diseases. drug companies have already spent thousands of dollars trying to patent the code for known genetic diseases so they are the only ones to profit from research done on the genetic code.
Genes develope slight mutations, not only from person to person, but from cell to cell within a human body. Genes, whether animal, plant, or human are not invented by people, they are, if you will, a constantly changing force of nature. (Who you believe is "in control" of that nature is up to you.) Nevertheless, I believe that genes should not be patented, mabey they could be copywritten, but whatever hold a company or entity has on a gene, that should NEVER be abused.
you can only patent a gene if it's not in its natural form, which is kind of like a new invention. i mean the light bulb is electricity (lighting) not in its natural form, right? plus the patents will all wear out after 20 years.
I did a little searching around, and it looks like companies are able to patent natural genes. They don't have to alter them, or build them from scratch; they just have to isolate and purify them (in a "novel" way), and show how the genes could have a "substantial use." The "invention" being patented is essentially the genetic information itself. Usually the publication of a patent allows other inventors to build on an invention, seeing what works and what doesn't, working with other materials, etc. But with gene patents, the publication of the information means that no one else can create products with patented genes for the 20 years that the patent is in effect without paying royalties to the patent holder. That makes some genetic research prohibitively expensive, or even impossible.
The article linked to above begins:
As of January 2007, some 20% of the genes that make up human DNA were patented.
Here's a "Beginner's guide to gene patents" from the UK's The Guardian.
Here's a story NPR did on the subject of gene patents about two years ago.
The American Medical Association weighed in on gene patenting, too.
Yeah its great! :D
undecided
this is just not right having a patent on human genes. what if the company who has the patent has a money-lover researchers.. work for money and not caring for those who are in danger.. other than that, it's just outrageous to let only one company to be able to make use of that genes. it is, in fact, limiting the discovery of the cure to those chronic diseases. what would happen to the world if a disease strikes the whole world? DO we have to depend on those few researchers in the company (maybe 10 or less of them) to find the cure? It'LL TAKE THEM THOUSANDS OF YEARS!!! why not work together as a united world? with more people working on the same thing, a lot faster it is to be able to find the cure...
well, what r u trying to say, exactly? that ppl are getting tricked into paying 2 much $ when scientists are using that $ 4 their experiment???
The reason this is even in question is because they didnt just discover a gene, they isolated it. That had never been done before. I think that patents to help encourage scientist to do more reasearch, but the junk they are doing with the patents is wacked up...do you hear me? WACKED UP. yup. they shouldnt make ppl pay as much money to try to research the gene...that is wrong, and holds back medical research. They were on the right track..they just dont know how to stay there...TT_TT evilness!! getting good medical research and then stopping it...
"The reason this is even in question is because they didnt just discover a gene, they isolated it. That had never been done before. I think that patents to help encourage scientist to do more reasearch, but the junk they are doing with the patents is wacked up...do you hear me? WACKED UP. yup. they shouldnt make ppl pay as much money to try to research the gene...that is wrong, and holds back medical research. They were on the right track..they just dont know how to stay there...TT_TT evilness!! getting good medical research and then stopping it..." --Devender
If one agrees with the patenting of genes, then one agrees with the powers the act of patenting a gene gives a person, including have the "right" to own a gene that is in everyone's body and treat it as a product that is owned as he/she gets greedy, etc...
What is shocking is that you can patent something you did not even create. "Isolate" and "found a novel use for" are ridiculous excuses for greed and selfishness. Anyone can "isolate" something or find a "novel" use for something. So, if I find a novel use for some type of food, do I patent it and take that food away from everyone for my self? Finders keepers is a child's game the U.S. government is condoning!
I don't agree with the patenting of any part of nature. I don't care what anyone believes, parts of nature are "the commons"; and, no selfish little finite rat should be allowed take it away for his/herself.
So, if I extract one of my own genes from my own body, that is also found in every other human's body, I can be sued by a researcher, one person, who patented "it." That single researcher can own all of these genes in everyone's bodies. Case in point: the gene that causes breast cancer. Researchers were sued, fined, restricted, etc... from using the gene in search of a cure for BC.
It'll just take us that much longer to find (if, now, we ever find) cures as more unique individuals with great potential are cut off. How many will die waiting (possibly forever)?
Personally, I find this privatization of literally everything utterly disgusting and repulsive. Bottled water companies have even told dirt poor peoples of other countries that they couldn't collect rain water because "they" had the rights to it. What is this world coming to? What is next? I know, but I won't say, as I don't want to give them the idea too soon; but expect it. Whatever it is, they want it.
I strongly support stem cell research, however I do not think companies should patent genes. I feel that stem cell research should be pushed more than patenting genes in curing chronic diseases.
Companies should be encouraged to invest in science research for funding purposes
I dont think so...:-(
No, the problems we have now are due to the patenting. Drugs are too expensive to buy, treatments are outrageous, and people who suffer from diseases suffer because the companies holding the patents are making it harder for other companies or scientists to find cures. I would love for one of the people holding a patent to something, get a disease that another company has the patent to and suffer the way we do, not able to do a thing about it.
because i just dont know enough abut it
i dont know anything about patenting something in my body
i dont think anybody should own human geans
i dont want something else to be the same me as i am there is only 1 me and that is well...me!
how can something that was not invented by a human being be patented? it is ridiculous!
why should we let companies do stuff to us if we dont want them to
patenting human genes is the way business works. business is what has helped create our progressive country. at this time patenting seems to be the answer for the study and progression of medicine. what are the alternatives?
nobody asked if you are market or not.
I am not a market.
Evil is more of a opinion than a fact to me, so it's hard to say what they should or shouldn't do. And so it's hard to judge what should happen that way.
Companies shuold NOT be able to do that it is EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
hello there i agree with you too!
because they are pieces of whole and for use not abuse.
i think that the whole woeld is coming to an end because our eco system is failing because of the "man" we should all band together and work twards a better world and a better eco system
I believe life is to sacred to try to reproduce any individual.
i want 2 say it's weird 2 do that & people r living, breathing, human beings!
I dont know enough to vote!!!!!!
Patents are for inventions, not merely discoveries. Patenting genes would be like patenting a new species discovered in some faraway jungle. If you allow genes to be patented (as I guess is already being done), it leads to less innovation and less assistance that could be gained from unrestricted access to such genes.
It's absolutely absurd that this practice has been going on. Genes simply aren't man-made inventions.
because its not right.
If I were to base my opinion on current laws, I'd say they should have copywrites instead of patents. However, neither should be possible for genes.
science is good for you! So you should keep this.
THE PATENT IS A LEGAL PROCESS TO PREVENT OTHERS FROM FREE ACCESS, OR A METHOD TO GAIN PROFITS FOR GENETIC TESTING. THIS IS THE DARK SIDE OF THE RESEARCH PROCESS.
yes they should be allowed to because it is for science.
Ofcorse! Why shouldn't you have the right to patent your own genes. That way no one else can use your genes for anything unless of your approval.
Yes, why wouldn't you want someone to have the right to patent your own genes, but they should get permission for using your genes though.
Well, that is actually the opposite of what is happening. Companies are patenting your genes and preventing you from benefiting from the research without a license fee. In an article for the New York Times, Michael Crichton brings up this great example:
hey yes
Letting private companies patent human genes makes it harder to find cures because researchers are afraid to research something they worry may be in the private domain.
Besides, the codes for human genes themselves are fairly simple, and are typically gleaned from publically funded research made public over the internet. Taxpayer money funds the hard work, and private companies claim credit (and profit.)
because in the end it is very limiting to scientific discovery. only companies that have the patents for specific genetic code would be able to study and possibly create a cure for some of the most horrendous genetic diseases. drug companies have already spent thousands of dollars trying to patent the code for known genetic diseases so they are the only ones to profit from research done on the genetic code.