i am agree with it because they can also clone a heart or any human organs and in an example if your mom is dieing and she needs a heart its good to clone it
I personally would only eat cloned meat if I had to. Raising animals for food takes a massive amount of crops and fossil fuels, and I'm not sure but I think it's much less efficient than growing crops. Maybe once the world population grows to some extent, we wouldn't be able to raise livestock (corn would have to be used to feed people, not livestock) and the only source of meat would be from cloned meat. If we're all vegetarians, this wouldn't be a problem, but plants have less energy content than animals generally and are more difficult to get some nutrients from.
It's not like cloning an animal just magically makes a 1000 pound steer that's ready for slaughter. The animals will still have to raised and fed out so it's not like cloning would be an answer for using less crops.
i don't think that cloned meat should be sold to the public or to anyone thats really crazy what if the cloned meat has some type of disease in it and the whole world dies off i'm just saying "what if"
I think cloning should not be allowed at all.... it's totally messing up what is natrual to us. American indians wouldn't do it! Plus then we might have complications with eating cloned animals. It just wouldn't be right.
People don't loose focus. You can clone a male and a female cow that are of high breed and would produce the best milk and meat and breed them i won't simply be a clone meat just a way to make sure that through regular birth comes the best product. Stop hatin on cloning
Every cow is different. Just because it has the best bloodlines doesn't mean it's going to be an excellent producer. I've had cows who's mother was the best milker in the herd but she ended up lacking in milk production and being a "three quartered" cow.
I only wonder if you eat a cloned animal what are you taking to yourself? what's in there, is it like still real meat, because it wasn't given birth like other animals. Sow hat's in it? Could it be dangerous for us eating it?
i believe the person who said that god made everything clean through is right but for the other person you are wrong god made seeds how do you think we got them? how do you think we got the first tree or plant that made the seeds sure was'nt from man we was'nt around at the time god made the earth...
Eating Cloned Animals???? What Are they Thinking, I mean that's Really Gross and What if Something Happens to Human, would there be a cure? I Mean that's Really Nasty, Cloned Animals.
If they are not labeling this meat. Are they even going to tell us when it is on the market? I mean come on people stick up for your rights this is America. People should have a choice about what they eat. I would not put that garbage in my body. The government says alot of things keep in mind they are all human to, and humans make mistakes.
I probably wouldn't eat cloned meat. i mean, isn't the point of cloning to bring back endangered animals? If it is, what's the point of cloning them if you are just going to kill them!
I recently had the chance to see the movie I am Legend. Anyone who thinks humans can improve on what God has created (or nature if you do not believe in God) needs to see the movie and then ask yourself if it is still a good idea to try to improve on what already is.
It depends, maybe after a profound scientific study that would certified eating Cloned Meat ( Animal) is safe.
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Cloned meat... it wouldnt hurt the original animal would it? And i guess all the meat would be perfect, it would all look, taste and feel the same. But that dosent mean there would be more meat. You have to put the cloned foetus inside the animal so it grows etc. So basically, you would get perfect meat, but it would be more expensive, take just as long, and the process would be so difficult that there would be less of it out there. And i think most people would prefer to eat real meat than cloned.
"The consumer group urged FDA to issue a permanent ban on food or feed from cloned animals until the government conducts more safety testing on possible side-effects and addresses concerns over animal cruelty and ethical issues tied to the technology."
i really dont know...part of me believes there is life beyond earth but part of is saying well if there was we probably would have seen something by now!!
I think that cloned animals can really help impovershed nations around the world who are starving and whatnot. However, it will also have an economic effect on Ranchers and Farmers... And most of the time, when Americans have more things, it doesn't really affect other countries. We could introduce it to the poorer nations, but that would require an increase of education and highly-trained cloning-technicians.
So I suppose I'm a little confused.
An animal that is cloned still has to grow... and needs food to do so. They wouldn't exactly help poor countries because if that country doesn't have enough money to raise livestock they sure as heck won't have enough money to clone AND raise livestock.
I disagree with the comment that we need cloned animals to be able to feed the hungry in the world. We already produce world wide the food we would need to feed all people on the earth world wide but we lack the ability to be able to divided our combined resources and food staples to be able to stop the famines and starvation we see in the world. If all governments on earth shared what they had there would be no one starving anymore but we don't. So cloning animals still won't help starving people because the governments cloning the animals still wont share the extra to help with worldwide starvation and we lack the resources to get the food there also. So cloning is mostly for scienctist to be the first ones to do it and not a cure all for global hunger.
Cloning animals is FAR more expensive than breeding them, so I think it will be a long time before we find cloned animals in the foodstream in any significant numbers.
I think that it should be labeled so the consumer can choose, as someone else said. However, I don't see cloned food ever hitting the shelves, as it is way more expensive to clone animals than to breed them.
The FDA made a preliminary statement on Dec. 28, 2006 about approving cloned meat and milk into the food supply without labeling. The FDA plans to make a final decision after accepting comments from the public. The FDA has a petition/docket on their website that is accepting comments from the general public until 4/10/07, so act fast people! Below is the docket and website address where it can be found:
Docket Number & Title: 2006P-0415 - Petition Seeking Regulation of Cloned Animals
Comment Period End Date: 04/10/07
I might... I would need to know if everything, would be the same as normal products? I think it is a good idea overall though. I just hate how they clone.
I do not have enough information yet. When you look at hunger in the world, this perhaps could be a resource if it is proven to be safe and nutritious.
I don't think that the FDA is talking about "artificial meat"--where proteins are grown in a lab. (Here's a Buzz story on the technique.) Artificial meat certainly could someday be a resource to combat hunger, and it could help the environment, too. (Read the story to find out why.) But it sure doesn't sound tasty, does it?
Instead, I think they're saying that IF an animal is cloned for some other purpose--say it's been bred for some optimum trait, and now they want to preserve that trait--it can enter the foodstream once its "useful life" is over.
Yes, the decision also means that people could clone animals for food, but cloning is SO expensive that it doesn't make sense right now to clone animals only for food.
I wouldn't eat cloned meat because I believe the onset of disease and aging would come on quicker in the animal. I understand that the meat that would be cloned would come from an animal who would seem to be healthy, but what if when they age they have health issues. Wouldn't these same health issues come on faster in a cloned animal? And what if we have meat that come from all the same genes and a new disease wipes out these animals because they all have the same genes. Survival of the fittest allows randomness in our DNA to allow us to survive various diseases. These animals wouldn't have the same chance of survival.
'Survival of the fittest allows randomness in our DNA to allow us to survive various diseases. These animals wouldn't have the same chance of survival."
Very good point!
And if there was an allergy derived from a cloned animal, due to the fact that there is as of now no requirements for labeling, there would be no way to track down the particular cow.
Have you read the case about a Maryland dairy farmer named Greg Wiles?
"The FDA action follows the recent news that the agency has refused to investigate health problems in animal clones on a U.S. dairy farm. Greg Wiles, whose Williamsport Maryland "Futuraland 2020"dairy was the first farm in the nation to have cloned cows, told FDA that one of his two cow clones was suffering from unexplained health problems. Wiles told Food Chemical News that the clone "just stopped growing...she just looks terrible," but says that when he reported the problems to FDA and other federal officials, he was "paddled around like a tennis ball from agency to agency."CFS has asked the Agriculture Department to intervene in the case to stop any sale and prohibit the slaughter of clones and their progeny for food." http://www.progress.org/2006/gene114.htm
"Mr. Wiles was the first to have a commercial clone on his dairy farm in Maryland. To date, he has been abiding by the FDA’s requested voluntary moratorium on placing milk and meat from cloned animals and their progeny into the food supply. As a result of a court case, a judge in Maryland District Court for Washington County may soon order that Mr. Wiles’ animals – including clones and their progeny – be sold to satisfy a judgment. A force sale of the animals would likely result in their slaughter for use in meat. Mr. Wiles is concerned about this possibility on at least two fronts. First, he believes that the forced sale of the cloned animals would result in placing milk and meat from cloned animals into the food supply before any government agency has fully evaluated its safety. Second, Mr. Wiles, who has experienced a number of health problems with his cloned animals, believes that the animals should not be put into the food supply and instead be evaluated as part of the risk assessment process use to determine whether or not milk and meat from cloned animals is safe. Over the last several years, Mr. Wiles has brought this matter to the attention of the government – meeting with FDA and USDA officials – but has been rebuffed in his attempts to have his cloned animals fully evaluated and used in research.
Upon hearing of the Wiles situation, today Center for Food Safety and Food and Water Watch sent the attached letter to the USDA FSIS asking the agency to prohibit any slaughter of clones and their progeny and intervene in the Wiles case to the extent necessary to prevent the sale of the cloned animals." http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/food/foodsafety/cloning/news-pending-cloned-animal-slaughter
love humen body but the inside is creapy.
i am agree with it because they can also clone a heart or any human organs and in an example if your mom is dieing and she needs a heart its good to clone it
i agree to cloning hearts can realy help!
I personally would only eat cloned meat if I had to. Raising animals for food takes a massive amount of crops and fossil fuels, and I'm not sure but I think it's much less efficient than growing crops. Maybe once the world population grows to some extent, we wouldn't be able to raise livestock (corn would have to be used to feed people, not livestock) and the only source of meat would be from cloned meat. If we're all vegetarians, this wouldn't be a problem, but plants have less energy content than animals generally and are more difficult to get some nutrients from.
It's not like cloning an animal just magically makes a 1000 pound steer that's ready for slaughter. The animals will still have to raised and fed out so it's not like cloning would be an answer for using less crops.
~Maryland Dairy and livestock farmer.
i don't think that cloned meat should be sold to the public or to anyone thats really crazy what if the cloned meat has some type of disease in it and the whole world dies off i'm just saying "what if"
Meats no Treat for Those who Eat!
I think cloning should not be allowed at all.... it's totally messing up what is natrual to us. American indians wouldn't do it! Plus then we might have complications with eating cloned animals. It just wouldn't be right.
People don't loose focus. You can clone a male and a female cow that are of high breed and would produce the best milk and meat and breed them i won't simply be a clone meat just a way to make sure that through regular birth comes the best product. Stop hatin on cloning
Every cow is different. Just because it has the best bloodlines doesn't mean it's going to be an excellent producer. I've had cows who's mother was the best milker in the herd but she ended up lacking in milk production and being a "three quartered" cow.
~Dairy Farmer
I only wonder if you eat a cloned animal what are you taking to yourself? what's in there, is it like still real meat, because it wasn't given birth like other animals. Sow hat's in it? Could it be dangerous for us eating it?
No
No
i believe the person who said that god made everything clean through is right but for the other person you are wrong god made seeds how do you think we got them? how do you think we got the first tree or plant that made the seeds sure was'nt from man we was'nt around at the time god made the earth...
Eating Cloned Animals???? What Are they Thinking, I mean that's Really Gross and What if Something Happens to Human, would there be a cure? I Mean that's Really Nasty, Cloned Animals.
If they are not labeling this meat. Are they even going to tell us when it is on the market? I mean come on people stick up for your rights this is America. People should have a choice about what they eat. I would not put that garbage in my body. The government says alot of things keep in mind they are all human to, and humans make mistakes.
I probably wouldn't eat cloned meat. i mean, isn't the point of cloning to bring back endangered animals? If it is, what's the point of cloning them if you are just going to kill them!
depends what it's original.........ummmmm never mind. of course not!!!!!!!!!!!
I recently had the chance to see the movie I am Legend. Anyone who thinks humans can improve on what God has created (or nature if you do not believe in God) needs to see the movie and then ask yourself if it is still a good idea to try to improve on what already is.
very well put!!!!! i like what you said!!!!!
It depends, maybe after a profound scientific study that would certified eating Cloned Meat ( Animal) is safe.
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i do not eat meat cuz i am an animal lover and i love all sorts and every kinds ugly or cute i love them no matter what
Cloned meat... it wouldnt hurt the original animal would it? And i guess all the meat would be perfect, it would all look, taste and feel the same. But that dosent mean there would be more meat. You have to put the cloned foetus inside the animal so it grows etc. So basically, you would get perfect meat, but it would be more expensive, take just as long, and the process would be so difficult that there would be less of it out there. And i think most people would prefer to eat real meat than cloned.
Yes
A consumer group, the Center for Food Safety, alleged today that the FDA's approval process for cloned meat and milk was done too quickly, didn't involve enough stakeholders, and is scientifically flawed.
According to the Reuter's article:
i really dont know...part of me believes there is life beyond earth but part of is saying well if there was we probably would have seen something by now!!
no
i agree with the other guy. it's okay.
I think that cloned animals can really help impovershed nations around the world who are starving and whatnot. However, it will also have an economic effect on Ranchers and Farmers... And most of the time, when Americans have more things, it doesn't really affect other countries. We could introduce it to the poorer nations, but that would require an increase of education and highly-trained cloning-technicians.
So I suppose I'm a little confused.
An animal that is cloned still has to grow... and needs food to do so. They wouldn't exactly help poor countries because if that country doesn't have enough money to raise livestock they sure as heck won't have enough money to clone AND raise livestock.
i wouldntbuyit or eat it because itjust not the same
it depends on the situation if u were starving, than yes, if not, than ABSOULUTLLY NOT!!!!!!!!!!SICK!!!!!!!!!!!!!
get over yourselves! wats wrong with u people! Id rather eat cloned meat than die!
why would it matter if it was cloned or not? it still tastes the same! get over yourself!
I would eat cloned meat if i had to and that was the last thing there was to eat
I disagree with the comment that we need cloned animals to be able to feed the hungry in the world. We already produce world wide the food we would need to feed all people on the earth world wide but we lack the ability to be able to divided our combined resources and food staples to be able to stop the famines and starvation we see in the world. If all governments on earth shared what they had there would be no one starving anymore but we don't. So cloning animals still won't help starving people because the governments cloning the animals still wont share the extra to help with worldwide starvation and we lack the resources to get the food there also. So cloning is mostly for scienctist to be the first ones to do it and not a cure all for global hunger.
I agree. Cloning will not help feed the hungry. (See post above about artificial meat, though...)
Cloning animals is FAR more expensive than breeding them, so I think it will be a long time before we find cloned animals in the foodstream in any significant numbers.
I think that it should be labeled so the consumer can choose, as someone else said. However, I don't see cloned food ever hitting the shelves, as it is way more expensive to clone animals than to breed them.
The FDA made a preliminary statement on Dec. 28, 2006 about approving cloned meat and milk into the food supply without labeling. The FDA plans to make a final decision after accepting comments from the public. The FDA has a petition/docket on their website that is accepting comments from the general public until 4/10/07, so act fast people! Below is the docket and website address where it can be found:
Docket Number & Title: 2006P-0415 - Petition Seeking Regulation of Cloned Animals
Comment Period End Date: 04/10/07
http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/scripts/oc/dockets/comments/getDocketInfo.cfm?EC_DOCUMENT_ID=1269&SORT=STARTD&MAXROWS=15&START=31&CID=&AGENCY=FDA
I might... I would need to know if everything, would be the same as normal products? I think it is a good idea overall though. I just hate how they clone.
it depends what animal it is
I do not have enough information yet. When you look at hunger in the world, this perhaps could be a resource if it is proven to be safe and nutritious.
Hmmmm...
I don't think that the FDA is talking about "artificial meat"--where proteins are grown in a lab. (Here's a Buzz story on the technique.) Artificial meat certainly could someday be a resource to combat hunger, and it could help the environment, too. (Read the story to find out why.) But it sure doesn't sound tasty, does it?
Instead, I think they're saying that IF an animal is cloned for some other purpose--say it's been bred for some optimum trait, and now they want to preserve that trait--it can enter the foodstream once its "useful life" is over.
Yes, the decision also means that people could clone animals for food, but cloning is SO expensive that it doesn't make sense right now to clone animals only for food.
Why not eat it? If the animals are truly similar (def. of clone) their meat would be exatly the same, we wouldnt be able to tell a difference.
Cloning in general is just wrong.
cloning animals means that you could clone the animals that go the best with my secret barbeque sauce!!!YUM SANDWICH!!!!
meat is meat
I wouldn't eat cloned meat because I believe the onset of disease and aging would come on quicker in the animal. I understand that the meat that would be cloned would come from an animal who would seem to be healthy, but what if when they age they have health issues. Wouldn't these same health issues come on faster in a cloned animal? And what if we have meat that come from all the same genes and a new disease wipes out these animals because they all have the same genes. Survival of the fittest allows randomness in our DNA to allow us to survive various diseases. These animals wouldn't have the same chance of survival.
'Survival of the fittest allows randomness in our DNA to allow us to survive various diseases. These animals wouldn't have the same chance of survival."
Very good point!
And if there was an allergy derived from a cloned animal, due to the fact that there is as of now no requirements for labeling, there would be no way to track down the particular cow.
Have you read the case about a Maryland dairy farmer named Greg Wiles?
"The FDA action follows the recent news that the agency has refused to investigate health problems in animal clones on a U.S. dairy farm. Greg Wiles, whose Williamsport Maryland "Futuraland 2020"dairy was the first farm in the nation to have cloned cows, told FDA that one of his two cow clones was suffering from unexplained health problems. Wiles told Food Chemical News that the clone "just stopped growing...she just looks terrible," but says that when he reported the problems to FDA and other federal officials, he was "paddled around like a tennis ball from agency to agency."CFS has asked the Agriculture Department to intervene in the case to stop any sale and prohibit the slaughter of clones and their progeny for food." http://www.progress.org/2006/gene114.htm
"Mr. Wiles was the first to have a commercial clone on his dairy farm in Maryland. To date, he has been abiding by the FDA’s requested voluntary moratorium on placing milk and meat from cloned animals and their progeny into the food supply. As a result of a court case, a judge in Maryland District Court for Washington County may soon order that Mr. Wiles’ animals – including clones and their progeny – be sold to satisfy a judgment. A force sale of the animals would likely result in their slaughter for use in meat. Mr. Wiles is concerned about this possibility on at least two fronts. First, he believes that the forced sale of the cloned animals would result in placing milk and meat from cloned animals into the food supply before any government agency has fully evaluated its safety. Second, Mr. Wiles, who has experienced a number of health problems with his cloned animals, believes that the animals should not be put into the food supply and instead be evaluated as part of the risk assessment process use to determine whether or not milk and meat from cloned animals is safe. Over the last several years, Mr. Wiles has brought this matter to the attention of the government – meeting with FDA and USDA officials – but has been rebuffed in his attempts to have his cloned animals fully evaluated and used in research.
Upon hearing of the Wiles situation, today Center for Food Safety and Food and Water Watch sent the attached letter to the USDA FSIS asking the agency to prohibit any slaughter of clones and their progeny and intervene in the Wiles case to the extent necessary to prevent the sale of the cloned animals." http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/food/foodsafety/cloning/news-pending-cloned-animal-slaughter
Informative websites about this matter:
http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/nation/12/21/21clonedcows.html
http://pewagbiotech.org/newsroom/summaries/display.php3?NewsID=1036
http://www.progress.org/2006/gene114.htm
http://www.fda.gov/cvm/CloneRiskAssessment.htm
http://www.satansrapture.com/biomeat.htm
http://www.mercola.com/2003/nov/1/europe_meat_ban.htm
http://www.label-cloned-meat.information-place.net/index.php
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/316737199?ltl=1168813024
http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/326647632
http://www.care2.com/c2c/groups/disc.html?gpp=95&pst=831801&archival=
http://www.yelp.com/topic/yAPDCRQTZD4MKg90ozb-kg
http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2006/NEW01541.html
http://www.myspace.com/label_cloned_meat
http://www.mercola.com/2002/apr/24/cloning.htm
http://www.mercola.com/2001/mar/10/cloning.htm
http://www.mercola.com/2007/jan/9/can-you-avoid-cloned-meats.htm
http://www.mercola.com/2002/feb/27/pope_cloning.htm
http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/about/press/releases/approval-of-cloned-food-leaves-consumers-unprotected
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,11069-2521734,00.html
Lisa
Thank you so much for your information on cloning! I am doing an essay on this topic and you have been so helpful.