No, this isn't about the Tea Party movement. With all the snowstorms sweeping the country this week, a researcher is trying to determine if all 50 states have measureable snow on their lands right now. Here's the full story. He's pretty sure this hasn't happened in a long time, if ever.

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Thor's picture
Thor says:

Turns out that the National Weather Service can confirm snow in only 49 states today. Hawaii has let us down, although it often has snow on it's two largest volcanoes. Here's the official report.

posted on Fri, 02/12/2010 - 3:55pm
Gene's picture
Gene says:

You are using "snow job" incorrectly. The term describes "an effort to deceive, overwhelm or persuade with insincere talk." It is commonly used to describe politicians (not mentioning any names) who promise a "net spending cut" and then quadruple the annual debt, rather than the citizens who call shenanigans on them.

posted on Mon, 02/15/2010 - 12:14am
JGordon's picture
JGordon says:


I think Thor's comment was more punning for the sake of punning than anything else. But, in any case, I'm sure it depends on your perspective. Lots of folks probably feel like the volume of claims made by members of the Tea Party movement is intended to mislead and overwhelm. And you could probably guess where those folks are coming from (politically). Sort of like how the top hits from Googling "a 'net spending cut' and then quadruple the annual debt" are the Heritage Foundation and "the internet home for the American gay conservative."

But I don't think either the liberals or conservatives are responsible for the remarkable weather of the last few weeks (unless Cheney and Biden are fighting over Camp David's weather machine again), so, you know, whatevs.

posted on Mon, 02/15/2010 - 10:48am
Gene's picture
Gene says:

If it's a pun, I'm afraid I don't get it. "Snow"? "Tea"? But, I confess, Thor's humor is often too subtle for me.

The key word in the definition is "insincere." I believe the Tea Partiers are very sincere. (Whether you or I believe they are correct is beside the point.) Like any political movement, they present statements of fact and statements of opinion. Their primary statements of fact -- that government spending and government's role in our lives have increased -- are verifiable. No deception there. Their opinion -- that this is a bad thing -- is just that: their opinion, neither true nor false, and thus incapable of being misleading or deceiving (provided it is sincere).

As for "overwhelm" or "persuade," I agree, it probably depends on your perspective whether or not you would apply those terms to the Tea Party movement. But, again, overwhelming persuasion is a "snow job" only if insincere.

We have strayed far from science -- a lesson in the importance of choosing one's puns wisely.

Politics and weather? I think that's another thread... ;-)

posted on Tue, 02/16/2010 - 12:01pm
Liza's picture
Liza says:

We have, indeed, strayed far from science.
To quote Gilbert and Sullivan, "...let's talk about the weather."

posted on Tue, 02/16/2010 - 12:32pm

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