The Loch Ness...elephant?
Nessie: The most famous photo of the Loch Ness monster, from 1933.
Swimming elephant: An elephant swimming.
Dr. Neil Clark, Scotland's top dinosaur expert, has come to the conclusion that the famous Loch Ness monster was really a circus elephant.
Dr. Clark noted that the famous photo of Nessie looks very much like an elephant swimming, with its head and body mostly submurged and its trunk sticking up out of the water. He also found that sightings of the "monster" had been very rare until 1933 -- when a circus came to the area. It's possible that the circus master allowed his elephants to swim in the Loch, and then got the idea for a publicity stunt. We do know that one such impresario, Bertram Mills, offered a reward for anyone who could capture Nessie for his circus -- and that sightings of the "monster" immediately surged.
Bertram died in 1938, and Nessie sightings dropped sharply thereafter. However, the elephant theory does not explain away other, incontrovertible evidence.
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thats phony! its pretty cool though!
ya i don't agree i don't think an elephant can live under water
I doubt its a lock ness...elephant! Why wouldn't you just call it a loch ness monster, like they do in all the cartoons? You guys are all crazy!!!
I think Nessie the Loch Ness Monster is indeed real and those who disagree, well they can just sit there and be quiet. I think that if she is real, the press, dumb scientists, and stupid people should leave her alone. THE PICTURE on the main page was a fraud so you should really change that!!!
WHAT EVER!!
The Loch ness Monster still DOES exist, ????????!!!
what would an elephant be doing in Scotland?
i think its real.it truly is. im doing a speech on it at school and and its going to be hard convincing my classmates!!!
nessie aint tru !!
I THINK ITS A BEAST FROM THE DINOSAUR AGE
I think the lock ness elaphant is real. Do you?
Oooo. Check out the live web cam where you can watch for Nessie!
If you look at the picture of Nessie and imagine an elephant body and head, it fits perfectly!!! By the way, they never said elephants live underwater, they said they were swimming like all animals do. The owner of the circus probably just wanted to make more money so he made up a phony story. Why else would the sightings increase when the circus was around? Did Nessie just want to see the clowns? I don't think so?
why cant you except that its just a creature were unsure of , why do people have to make it something strange its not an elepahnt , you just want attention , stop spreading rumors we can all make up things like nessie is an elephant( theres no resemblinse)thanks
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They're mistaking it for a whale.\r\n\r\nM.T.L.
The elephants didn't live underwater. They were simply going for a brief swim. They all left in the late 1930s, when the circus left. "Nessie" sightings rose sharply when the circus was around, and fell sharply when the circus--and the elephants--left town.
LOL!!! i like it!
NO WAY NESSIE IS REAL \r\n\r\nCJ WROTE DIS
Nessie might or might not be real, but I think that Nessie is just a myth. But Nessie ain't an elephant. Eleanor wrote dis
It was a circus elephant.
Pleez elephants DON'T live under water!!, and still what will an elephant be doin underwater "swimming"
They weren't living underwater; they were simply swimming. Elephants are actually pretty good swimmers in the wild.
The elephants were part of a circus visting Scotland.
Well, that's not terribly scientific! ;-)
In science, we don't settle arguments by telling each other to shut up. Rather, we gather evidence and see which explanation covers them the best. The theory that a breeding population of prehistoric monsters survived the Ice Age in a cold Scottish lake, and yet are almost never seen and leave no tangible evidence, is... a bit of a stretch. The theory that a few people mistook swimming circus elephants, and the circus impressario circulated the rumor to boost his business, seems a lot more plausible.
There is no such thing as the lock ness elaphant but there is a such thing as the lock ness MONSTER!
Rock on brother
The Loch Ness monster is not real. If people a reading this and think that I am stupid, well, YOU'RE stupid! If the loch ness monster was real, it would of been annoyed and killed the people looking for it. The sightings are just people that believe in the loch ness monster and want other people to believe in the loch ness monster. That's why they even made a movie! I too used to believe in the Loch Ness monster too. Until that day I was surfing the internet on the Loch Ness monster. Then on the web site it said that this guy discovered that the most famous Loch ness "monster" photo, was actually a toy submerine! Think I'm crazy? Why is the thing in the photo so small?! I was really really shocked.
In conclusion, I don't believe in the legendary urban myth of the Loch Ness "Monster"
I totally agree with you
If I were you, i'd quit and do something else. There's no way that the loch ness monster is real after about 500 years of life! Or is there.....?
Alright smart guy, if nessie is indeed real, it is reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy old! About 1000 years.
Actually, she must be at least about 1500 years old (which is 5 centuries beyond the 1000 years of age you referred to in your comment). The earliest report of her can be found in the Diary of Saint Columbo, dated AD 565.
Another good reason to classify Nessie as a fraud or hoax -- no animal has ever lived anywhere close to that long.
i dont think its real but if u do its ur opinion
good job!
I think that the loch ness is just a hoax.
What would an elephant be doing in Scottland??? I wonder?? Well probably because the Circus was in town. Elephants have been known to be excellent swimmers, there have been recordings of elephants swimming 100's of miles in water, they just float!!! The old picture looks exactly like a trunk sticking up, why would some dinasour beast hide under water 24-7 all year round and out of nowhere say hey" I'm gonna stick my head up to look around because im not a fish, i need to breathe you know!!!!!
Nessie is true
IF it WAS an Elephant then why still today are people still reporting sightings. IF it was then why are there no reports of elephants coming out of the lake. and when an elephants free if it didn't want to be in the lake it would get out and would most likily cross in front of a passing car while it was going to get food. It was no elephant.
Once the idea of a monster is planted in people's heads, it can stick around for a long time. Nevertheless, there are far fewer reports today than during the time the circus was in town.
There are a few reports of "monsters" on land, usually after dark, when an elephant would be difficult to recognize.
the last picture i saw of nessie revealed she was carrying a suitcase therefore no trunk means no elephant
I really like that paragraph!!!!!!!
No way, the Loch is newer than the KT Boundary Extinction Event. That occurred in 65,000,000 BC. Loch Ness is only a few tens of thousands of years old. She might be an extraterrestrial, but certainly not a dinosaur.
I published my thesis on the loch ness monster and its effect on society as a whole. I've concluded that Nessie does exist and is spawning in the loch to create offspring as we speak.
Where did you receive your PhD. from? I am curious about your thesis and the evidence you have for you beliefs in the existence of the Loch Ness Monster.
I do not think there has been sufficient evidence to suggest the existence of this creature, but sure do think it says some interesting stuff about our society.
It sorta bums me out that we spend so much time debating the existence of mythical creatures like bigfoot, nessie, and others while simply fascinating cryptozoology stories based in evidence are not given as much attention. Why isn't there as much fanfare and excitement (and protection efforts) about the real discoveries of creatures like the hairy "lobster", the debate about the ivory-billed woodpecker, or the coelacanth?
For hundreds of years, people have told stories of surviving dinosaurs and other presumably extinct Mesozoic reptiles. (Nessie is an example.) We have no scientific proof that any such creatures exist, but the possibility continues to capture people's imaginations.
Another well-known character is Mokele-Mbembe, of the jungles of central Africa. In 1913, a German expedition in Congo met a group of indigenous people who told them of a creature they called Mokele-Mbembe. They described an animal about the size of an elephant wiht a long, flexible neck and a tail like an alligator's. They also said the animal would attack and kill humans who got too close, but it wouldn't eat them because it was a strict vegetarian. Similar descriptions--which suggest a small sauropod dinosaur--have been given time and again over the years. Expeditions in 1980, 1981, 1983, 1987, 1990, and 1992 claimed sightings and close calls, but provided no hard evidence of Mokele-Mbembe.
There are various reasons, despite all this, why Mokele-Mbembe's existence is virtually impossible.
Ever since Europeans started traveling to distant lands hundreds of years ago, indigenous people have told stories of monsters, myths, and riches--often in defense of their cultures. Perhaps the legend of Mokele-Mbembe is one such story.
Interestingly, at least one Mokele-Mbembe researcher is convinced that witnesses have mistaken wild elephants crossing rivers with their trunks in their air, for the mystery creatures. Those elephants sure get around!
Ha, check out this funny t-shirt that really explains the origins of the Loch Ness Monster.
'Cause the giant squid is real (and might be a canibal).
Don't any of you know that Nessie is real? And why the heck would an elephant be in the water?
Quite a few research expeditions have set out to prove Nessie's existance, and none has suceeded. I don't think that Nessie is real, although there's something about the idea that captures everyone's imagination. Like Fox Mulder, of "The X-Files," "I want to believe."
As for the elephant theory...Elephants are actually excellent swimmers, and they have been observed swimming or walking along river bottoms and using their trunks as snorkels. Given that there was a circus in town at the peak of the Nessie sightings, and the circus featured elephants, I think the elephant theory is fairly credible.
Loch Ness update
A Scottish scientist has determined that plesiosaurs – the long-necked marine reptiles often cited as possible explanations for the Loch Ness monster -- couldn’t raise their necks out of the water. There's no way they could pose as seen in the pictures. The elephant theory is looking better and better.
well if it was an elephant u think the person that took the picture would have followed it to shore
I kind-of do believe it and half don't!
Nessie's just a myth!
That's the point.
Gene's saying that a lot of Nessie sightings happened the summer the circus was in town. Maybe the elephants swimming spurred the myth?
loch ness monster yes. loch ness elephant yea right. watch skoby doo and u c its fake but get in the real world its real. skotish people may drink some wisky and see it and say its bigger than it really was.
I've recently read a novel (made-up story) about a woman who happens to be at Loch Ness and her theory (I said it was made-up) is that there's a time-traveling portal under the waters of Loch Ness that brings ancient dinosaurs to our time and back again. How's that for a theory?
The picture of the elephant looks soooooooooooooo much like the picture of(lochness)
Please tell me no one believes in nessie this creature everyone speaks about they have run soo many tests trying to figure out if the pictures are real and guess what they have proven that it is possible to make them up. Also if you still think it is possible that there is monster called nessie plaese tell me how come not one sonar or regular picture are clear. its just a story so people would go to the lake looking for it and bring big business to all the small time stores that are there.
the lochness monster was my dad in a catterpilla costume
The loch Ness monster is so not an elephant. Nessie dosen't even look like an elephant.
Nessie doesn't exist; therefore, it can look like anything you want! ;-)
you are so wrong
The evidence is on my side...or, rather, the lack of evidence is on the opposing side. ;-)
the loch ness monster is real!!!
That is SO not Nessie. There is NO Nessie. Anyone could tell it is an elephant. DUH!
there is no loch ness monster! how could there be? where would it come from?
Nessie is a giant sea cow that lives in a lake and shouoldnt be bothered.
SALT!
THE LOCH NESS IS FULL OF SALT! not
i think its not an elephant.
It's hard to tell, in writing, when people are joking.
So, just for clarification, I want to remind everyone that Loch Ness is a freshwater lake.
Yet another reason why Nessie couldn't be a Plesiosaur (extinct marine reptile) or Basilosaur (early whale) -- they were salt-water creatures.
Nessie isn't true!!!!!
i think the loch ness monster is a elephant but its pretty interesting.
one must be neutral about the loch ness monster we dont know whats in the loch until we have evidence - probably the best evidence to date has been from bob rines he filmed what appeared to look like a flipper or fin using cameras attached to a boat in 1972 and also 1975 of a head, neck, and body of a creature. he even witnessed the creature at urquhart castle deepest part of the loch in 1972 which began his obsession of the creature. even took his photos to parliament to protect the monster under conservation legislation but was snubbed by scientists and the lot, etc.
my theory is its between 25 to 30 feet in length, black, very long -its either of three things 1. mammal 2. large seal or fish 3. extinct plesiosaur its certainly not an elephant the water and enviroment is wrong for an elephant and the mystery would have been solve yrs ago if it was an elephant.
To a certain extent you are correct -- absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. Just because no one has found Nessie doesn't mean she's not there.
However, we must also look at what is plausible and what is possible. First of all, there can't be just one "Nessie." There would have to be a breeding population of at least a couple dozen individuals. If they are mammals or reptiles, each one would have to come to the surface to breathe many times a day -- there would be reported sightings all the time. If they are 25 - 30 feet long, each one would need to eat a lot of fish -- more than the lake can support.
The most likely explanation seems to be that the circus elephants were mistaken for sea monsters, which started the whole craze. The elephants are, of course, long gone, but the legend lives on, influencing people to interpret large fish as "Nessie" sightings.
I just saw the "new evidence" footage released a couple days ago and thought I'd throw my two cents in.
The researcher that commented in this new footage contends that the area should be preserved for future study and for future generations. This got me to think about what would be accomplished in doing such a thing. There's untapped economic potential to the Loch that is off limits and would continue to be off -limits if the Nessie believer camp have their way. This leads me to suspect that the monster hoax, perhaps stemming from the original swimming elephant, was used as an excuse to curb that economic development to a degree to perhaps favor local politics and their desires. Afterall, what better way to shape such an outcome than by not only using an "endangered species", but also one that remains elusive and unexplainable that has won the hearts and minds of the locals? Makes you think...
Oh well.. And I could care less what the people of a small region in Scotland are duped into believing. It'll be the accomplishment of some brave/bright debunker to reveal someday so... not my problem!
The footage you mention can be found here. The image is murky and indistinct, and could be an eel or even a log.
there is no concrete evidence of lochness existing. if there was evidence that is exist, where are the bones of the lochness?
Nessie is real, I dont care what anyone says, but I can see how an elephant swimming would look like nessie but that doesnt explain the creature corpse they found under water at the loch the resembled what nessie looks like from speculaters.
ITS AN ELEPHANT CAN'T YOU SEE?!?!?!
hold on is it is an elephant how come it has been living underwater for alls these years? where does it come up for air? wat does it feed on?
I WANT ANSWERS!
The elephants were only there from 1933 - 1938. But that was long enough to establish the legend of Nessie.
O.K IT IS NOT AN ELEPHANT! they have found something moving at all most the bottom of the loch IT IS NOT AN ELEPHANT
Do you have a citation for that?
and.... it has been seen out of water and it was not an elephant haaaa.
I think the Loch Ness monster is a beastie from outer space.
it seems resonable . but its not true. Just compare the elephant to the loch ness monster. the elephant trunk is smaller than the head of of the loch ness monster.
When an elephant swims, all that sticks above the surface is the trunk, looking much like the supposed "neck" of Nessie. Perhaps a little bit of the elephants head may also break the surface, and be seen as NEssie's back."
ok., the picture of the loch ness monster at the top IS NOT REAL!!!!!!!!! the photographer confessed before he died that it was a fake!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! so how could a fake monster look like an elephant!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As Liza explains on this page:
A fake monster could easily look like an elephant -- if the person creating the fake made it to resemble an elephant.
But what if, like, you made a fake elephant, and it looked like, a, uh, an elephant, but it was really... Wouldn't that mean that there was, like, a real...
Wait, what are we talking about?
THE LOCH IS REAL I HAVE SEEN IT ON THE LIVE WEB CAM
Oh, yeah, the Loch is real. The monster, however, isn't.
O.K THATS IT IT IS NOT AN ELEPHANT. IF IT WAS AN ELEPHANT IT WOUL BE SEEN MORE
The elephants left in 1938. The legend lives on.
Its obvious the monster is a plesiosaurs. All of the known photographs and drawings of the it look much like a plesiosaurs. Plus a comet supposedly killed all the dinosaurs by blocking out the sun with all the dust it stirred up which killed the plants, which killed the vegetarians, which killed the carnivores. But plesiosaurses are aquatic and it has been scientifically proven that there is aquatic life that can live without light. These organisms feed a small number of fish which feed another small number of fish and it eventually made its way up the food chain to the plesiosaurs. This generation reproduced before they died, just like the next generation, and the next, ext.
This resulted in many sightings of the monster which all look different in a small detail. Though I do believe that the circus master used the myth as a way to get more customers.
Though we are still left with the question of how a breeding colony of cold-blooded reptiles could survive, unchanged, for millions of years in a cold lake (one that did not even exist until after Scotland had been buried by glaciers for thousands of years), without leaving any tangible evidence. IT boggles the mind.
I can't remember if this goes for plesiosaurs too, but some paleontologists think that the aquatic reptiles of the mesozoic (ichthyosaurs, pliosaurs, etc) were in fact warm blooded, and would have been physiologically more similar to aquatic mammals than to cold-blooded reptiles or fish.
That's really niether here nor there, just something your comment brought to mind. It doesn't lend itself to the Loch Ness plesiosaur theory, though - as I understand it (though I'm not sure) there aren't a whole lot of fish available in the loch, at least not enough for a population of large warm-blooded animals.
I thought this was kind of interesting too: in Wikipedia's article on plesiosaurs, it is pointed out that it would have been impossible for a plesiosaur to raise its head into that upright, swan-like pose shown in some of the more famous photographs of the monster. Its neck wasn't built to bend up like that, and (even if it were) it would have resulted in the creature losing its balance and tipping forward anyhow.
No, I'm sticking with my theory that the Loch Ness Monster is some type of dragon that has evolved to eat water, or possibly magic.
Oh. You already pointed that out about the plesiosaur's neck. whoops.
sack all the bull abowt the elephant crap the loch ness is real not sum fat elephant if its an elephant u would see it more u probs would av see it cum right up to the surface n it would av poped its ed out n i dont think tha elephants can stay under water for tha long n if u think tha they can well then prove it then i might belive u . . . . NOT!!!! but cum on for real the loch ness is real and does exist n the only way tha ill change my mind is if sum 1 pulls an elephant outof scotland waters n shows me a live clip or if im there but probs only if im there.
That's so cool.
"The only way I'll believe that Nessie is not a monster is if they pull an elephant out of the loch."
Gene, I don't want any of your logical fallacies here - I'm totally down with this logic, and I, too, want to be there when they pull that elephant out.
Back when I was a lad, they used to have this required course in school called Reading for Comprehension. A subtle art, it nonetheless has come in very useful. I am saddened to see that it is no longer taught.
Look, go back to the original linked article. No one is claiming that there are elephants in Loch Ness today. Rather, it notes the fact that a circus camped out in the area from 1933 to 1938. It notes that elephants do indeed swim. It notes that reports of Nessie sightings were very rare before 1933, and after 1938. The author concludes that elephants swimming in Loch Ness in the 1930s were mistaken for sea monsters, and started a rumor which lives to this day.
I will believe Nessie is real the moment some kind of physical evidence is produced. A bone. A shed tooth. A carcass. Some scat. Come on -- you've supposedly got a breeding population of a couple dozen giant animals, living in a confined space for tens of thousands of years, and all you can produce are a few fuzzy photographs and a bunch of highly unreliable eye-witness accounts?
All things considered, it is strikingly more likely that elephants live in the Loch today, than that plesiosaurs or basilosaurs lived there ever.
Nope. See, in the way I do things, I have one person do the reading for me, and another do the comprehending for me (in this case my brother and "tucker" respectively).
It is now my life goal to personally go to Scotland and to capture that elephant, dead or alive.
There is proof i have seen pictures of an carcass cassing that had decaying skin and bones that were well decayd but were all conected by the thin skin holding it all together. I believe it was taken to a museum and carfully inspected and cleaned, where they brushed the bones up a bit and now have them up for display. Im not sure where but if you ever run into the same pictures i did ull believe there was a nessie... the problem is she died a long time ago it was only the cold water that kept the bones and skin in the condition they were in! Soooo The magic is still alive but im sorry to say that NESSIE IS NOT!
If you have a link to the photos or the name of the museum, I'd love to look in to it.
NESSIE IS REAL!!!
Oh my gosh, I suddenly realize -- I've been looking at this backwards! Consider the facts:
1) There were very few sightings of Nessie before 1933.
2) A circus was in Scotland near Loch Ness from 1933 to 1938.
3) The circus had elephants that swam in the Loch.
4) Sightings of Nessie suddenly skyrocketed during that period.
5) The circus went bankrupt under mysterious circumstances in 1938, and folded up its tents.
6) Sightings of Nessie dropped to almost nil afterwards.
Isn't it obvious what happened? Nessie eats elephants! They are its native food from the Paleolithic! All those centuries, Nessie was starved, and had to rummage for fish at the bottom of the Loch. Then, when the circus came to town, she suddenly had access to her favorite meal -- tender, delicious elephant. As she swam near the shore, hunting the elusive amphibious pachyderm, she was sighted again and again. Unfortunately, she ate the circus out of house and home. The circus went away, the supply of elephants dried up, and Nessie returned to the bottom of the Loch, never to be seen again.
Want more proof? Consider this: America used to teem with mammoths and mastodons. Where did they all go? Some people think the early Indians hunted them to extinction. But I know the real answer! Look at the fossil record -- America once teemed with plesiosaurs and other ancient marine reptiles! They ate all the mammoths! Once their food was gone, they too disappeared.
Want more proof? Where do you find elephants today? Africa. And what continent suspiciously has no Loch Ness monster? You're right -- Africa! Elephants can survive there only because their nemesis is kept out, mostly by stringently enforced immigration standards, but also the air fare from Scotland is just killer.
congadulations. you are the first to understand what i am
NESSIE
There. Was that so hard?
What's more, I think that you have the beginnings of a thesis here. Run with it.
It's fake .
its so NOT fake
thats so fake !??!
The Loch Ness monster is a dinosaur...
check out drdino.com for more info
It's almost certainly an Elephant swimming... If I was in the 30s, saw an Elephant swimming in the Loch and it looked like Nessie - i'd sell it and retire.... but, saying that, Nessie continues to make Scotland a hell of a lot of money - so, yeah it's a dinosaur
OMG i told my friend that the loch ness monster wasn't real, and she kept saying that it wa real and i showed a lot of facts to prove i was right and she was wrong and i will always try and find a way to show her that loch ness monster isn't real and i won't stop here.
The Loch ness Monster is real!
The Loch ness Monster is real :-)
I THINK NESSIE IS A DEMON TRYING TO BREAK AWAY FROM HIS MEAN SELFISH FAMILY AND BE A GOOD DEMON THATS WHY WE DONT SEE HIM ALL THE TIME BECAUSE HES SOMETIMES IN THE GATES OF HELL AND YOU CANT FIND SOMEONE IN THE GATES OF HELL SO I THINK HES HIDING IN THE GATES OF HELL FROM US CAUSE OUR DISPRAPORTIONED BODIES SCARE HIM BUT HIS STEP FATHER BEATS HIM THEREFORE HE HIDES IN THE GATES OF HELL TO STAY AWAY FROM HIS STEPFATHER AND US...THE GATES OF HELL IS INBETWEEN OUR WORLD AND HIS FAMILYS PLACE THATS WHY HE STAYS IN THE GATES OF HELL WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK
As logical as any other theory of Nessie's existence.
dude says LOOOLOOO is right so does the other dude right here.
The picture at the top is real, does an elefant stick it's trunk out of the water and point it down and if it did the tusks would have to stick out of the water too. And Nessie might just like clowns. (but there not funny, those clowns, there EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :O) says dude.
I think that dude is right, duh what els could it be? Horton?
The nessie is real, how could the picture be fake, they didn't have any big tecnology that could do anything to pictures. Did they?
Oh yes! People have been faking photos ever since shortly after the camera was invented. A famous case from 1917 involved two young girls who made paper cut-outs of fairies and posed with them. A number of people believed the photos were real, including Sir Arthur Canon Doyle, author of the Sherlock Holmes books.
WHY WOULD ThEY STILL HAVE SIGHTINGS UP TO NOW iF THE CIRCUS LEFT LOCH NESS
AND THE IF THE ELEPHANT WAS REALLY SWIMMING IN THE LOCH IT WOULD HAVE GONE TO THE SURFACE
AND ONE MORE THING THE THING THAT GENE SAID THAT NESSIE EATS ELEPHANTS MAYBE IT TRIED TO STICK ITS HEAD OUT TO LOOK FOR ELEPHANTS TO EAT^^
JUST SWIM IN THE LOCH AND LOOK FOR NESSIE
HAPPY HUNTING!!!!!!
It is my understanding that "sightings" became much rarer once the circus left. By that time, the myth was well-known, and ever since people have interpreted strange ripples, or a branch in the water at sunset, as the "monster." But such "sightings" are rare.
The picture looks much like the elephants trunk. Although I do think that the loch ness monster is probably real, even if it's 'supposed' to be a myth or whatever. Weren't there like unexplained deaths or drownings there? How would you explain those? That they all just drowned? Or that it's a joke that it was made believe? I think that it's possible that there is a such thing as the loch ness monster.
Nope. You're all wrong. Nessie is definitely an invisible and genetically modified zoo elephant. If she were from the circus, she would have clown shoes and a beach ball and she would be juggling 9 penguins.
I think it could be an elephant, it does look a lot like an elephant trunk
If we could get visual evidence that actually shows the loc monster clearly
then I would be more satisfied with my decision!
I have to admit that I do believe in the Loch Ness Monster. I know that it is not a monster though, so why do people do that, calling her/him a monster?!My brother and I have been doing research on the subject.The legend of the Loch Ness is not true, that it has magic and stuff, but I do believe that there is an undiscoverd marine animal that is there. It does resemble a dinosaur, MAYBE one or two lived through whatever killed the rest, populated, and then died. That may or may not be true. Many videos I have seen are resembled in some way. The videos all show the same shape in the water, they all swam fast and left the same water rings. One thing that really came at me was that the videos were all filmed in different parts of the world, which proves that there is more than one of the creature. If anyone ever catches it I hope they don't expose it to the public. The poor animal should just be left alone if someone catches it, so I think. Some people think that this creature is not going to be exposed until the rapture. In Revalations (In the Bible) it talks about a beast at the bottom of the ocean, chained down. It states that during the rapture it will be released. Back to it though, people are taking the creature the wrong way when they think about it.
Anyway, wish us luck on our research!
Jami Holmes
from all my reach oncthe loch nests think that the monster is fake because it looks aclot like a elephant just out for a swimbut what do I no i'm justv6years old
siencetificlty speaking It must be a elephant for there are no such things as Monsters. I 1st belived in these critters but then I saw it was no monster!!
i think nessie is real. i mean what would a ELEPHANT be doing out in the MIDDLE of loch ness lake? anyway people cant belive what they wont to. dont make them believe that nessie is or isnt real. so dont be going off telling people what to believe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You can believe anything you want, but science deals in observable facts. And everything we know to be true about the history and ecology of Loch Ness argues against it holding a breeding population of prehistoric creatures.
The elephants were brought to the Loch by a circus in the 1930s.
gene I dis agree It may not be likely becuase of science but that is by todays standards i mean think about it, pluto used to be a planet now its not. Or the earth is flat
Pluto didn't change. All that changed was the category we put it in.
The Earth was never flat.
But you are in essence correct--science keeps learning new things. And maybe--just maybe--it will discover some way that a breeding population of large air-breathing animals can live in a body of water that doesn't have enough food to support them, and without them coming to the surface to breathe.
Maybe. But the odds seem long against it.
Bah! You humans are pathetic. How can you believe in that legendary beast existes?
However, many people do not believe in the almighty race of dragons. That is ultimately foolish. How can you doubt the existence of dragons? Foolishness!
You humans are more foolish then I thought.
*snort* Discussing how that beast could have the head and tail of an elephant...
It is a myth, humans, nothing more.
Heed the words of a dragon rider.
May your swords stay sharp despite your foolishness,
Brom
I think Loch Ness monster is a elephant so that might be elephant
good to hear from you again gene. What i ment was they thought it was flat. And for your information how do you know she is not real? Have you explored every depth at once?
No, I have not. Nor have I jumped off every cliff in the world. But, knowing what science tells us about gravity, the acceleration of falling bodies, and the effect hard rocks at the base of the cliff have on falling bodies, I can make a pretty good prediction as to what would happen if I were to try it.
By the same token, science tells us that plesiosaurs, basilosaurs, or other prehistoric creatures suspected of living in Loch Ness would need to:
a) survive for millions of years beyond their extinction in the fossil record, waiting for glaciers to form the Loch;
b) adapt from living in warm salt water to frigid fresh water;
c) find enough to eat in a Loch that has very few fish;
d) have a large enough family that they could continue to breed for tens of thousands of years, without becoming dangerously inbred;
e) surface to breathe dozens of times a day.
None of these things have been observed. All of our biological knowledge tells us that A through D are all virtually impossible. Any one of these items would shift the burden of proof onto you. All four of them together places Nessie beyond any serious discussion.
i dont know abbout you guys but i think ness is real
so you dont want people to believe in nessie, but who say it;s a dinosuar what if it adapted and evolved into a fish.
Evolution doesn't work that way -- species don't evolve "back" into an ancestor.
(BTW, here's a fantastic site on why Nessie can't be a plesiosaur.)
However, this does raise an interesting possibility: perhaps Nessie isn't a prehistoric mammal or reptile, but simply an unusually large modern fish -- say an eel or sturgeon or something. This eliminates several of the objections. You don't need a breeding population--it could just be a single individual. (In many species of fish, individuals continue to grow with age. It would only take on great-granddaddy fish to spawn a "Nessie" rumor.) You don't need to explain how the creature survived extinction if it's a modern species, or how it got into the Loch. Fish obviously don't need to break the surface to breathe, and thus could much more easily hide. The lack of physical evidence is explained by the fact that the rest of the species is just normal-sized fish. There's still the issue of the Loch not having much food for a large creature to eat. But, still, a single large fish would stand a much better chance of survival there than a breeding population of sea monsters.
So, while the evidence is still pretty scanty, the "single large fish" theory is far more plausible than the flat-out impossible "large prehistoric reptile or mammal" theory.
For those of you guilty of this, please stop calling Nessie "it" rather than "she." The monster is a female, not a hermaphrodite.
Alas, it appears that Nessie may be dead. At least that's what a leading Nessie enthusiast thinks. Gary Campbell, president of the Official Loch Ness Monster Fan Club (and there's a title I'd love to have), notes that there have been very few sightings in recent years, and only one in all of 2009. Absence of evidence apparently is evidence of absence after all.
What I love about this is the assumption that the lack of sightings isn't taken as proof that Nessie doesn't exist. No, the lack of evidence is interpreted as meaning it does exist; it's just dead. How convenient. All we need now is a corpse. I'm not holding my breathe. (Though Nessie may be.)
On a personal note, I was recently (re)reading Alarms and Diversions by one of my all-time favorite writers, James Thurber, and found myself alarmed and more than a little bit saddened to find this talented and intelligent man taking Nessie seriously in the article "'There's Something Out There!'" His "proof"? A local doctor says he saw the monster, and we all know doctors never lie. Alas, I don't think Thurber was kidding. Sigh.
Maybe Nessie isn't real...
I don't know but Nessie could be just another large animal waiting to be discovered.. Anyway, I hope one day we'll all know what "Nessie" is.
looking at the picture of the nessie i am sure it snt an elephant ...may be that my knowledge in this regard is limited but i cant imagine that when an elaphant drowns and as his body goes down ....so can he stick out his trunk so straight up in the air n it s not neccessary that it s a dinasour of salty water ........well i think it can be an octopus kinda animal like this is what it seems to be.....
y are you going towards monsters it can be an a gaint fish living deep in the water n it s nt discovered. yet....
When an elephant swims, it does stick its trunk up above the water.
Elephants swimming at the Chester Zoo, 2004.Courtesy Paul Green
In a letter written in the 30s from a local police officer to the Under Secretary of State, Scotland Office, the existence of the Loch Ness Monster was claimed to be "beyond doubt"
Proof!
Wait, that's not proof...
It does fit with the elephant theory, though: if there occasionally were elephants in the loch at the time, the existence of monsters in the loch really would be beyond a doubt. (I consider elephants to be monsters.)
THE LOCH NESS MONSTER IS FAKE IT WAS AN ELEPHANT!!!!!!!
this is so fake i mean really.... the loch ness monster isn't some swimming elephant.i mean really who would think that.... no one would be so amazed with this creature if all it was, was a swimming elephant...
the loch ness monster is also proven to be a fairly large newt
Your guys need to put the pieces together the picture looks just like an elephant trunk so please dont go saying theirs no proof.
I believe the Loch ness monster exists. U guys just need 2 dig deeper in the world of it.
plus we now know that pics a fake. so it cant be anything
I think its a swimming elephant or a submarine. because river monsters aren't real!
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